Interview with Trey Azagthoth of Morbid Angel (August 2000)
by Luxi Lahtinen
from Metal-Rules
First of all, what are the biggest improvements from "Formulas..." to Gateways
to Annihilation" as far as its songs and production are concerned; I mean, in
which areas do you think you've progressed mostly?
I think one of the main things about this new album is that drums came across
the best for their kind of groove - and heavy patterns, drum patterns as far
as the groove because we had slow stuff in the past and lots of fast stuff.
But this album, tho, the rolls and symbol work and the way snare comes across
and all that is just really snappy and I think that's probably one of the main
things on this album. Compared to "Formulas...", I think the vocals now have
a little bit more diversity and Steve has got a lot of more experienced. As
he came in, y´know, kind of a new to sing for "Formulas...", we really didn't
do any shows or anything at that time. He was in a few bands before, but never
did a record before - and never did any big tours. So it was kind of new to
him. And, y´know, he sings a certain way on "Formulas..." - on the album - and
he asked me tutor, he developed and started finding different ranges, so it's
not always really low, but also low and maybe mid-ranged like that. And there's
a lot of that on this new album. The changes and the voice... and very clear,
still very heavy. You can understand the words, I think, but it's still very,
y´know, lots of force in it.
Song writing... Well, it's really kind of hard to say... I mean, "Formulas..." had certain kind of sound to it and this new album sounds different. "Formulas..." had a lot of more speed and darker guitar sounds, ambients - more ambients like Black Metal kind of, a lot of that kind stuff on "Formulas...". This album has a little different guitar sounds, more presence. Even tho most every song on this new album is a 7-string -songs, so it's down-tuned A-sharp. On "Formulas..." there was like 4-5 songs that were 7-string -songs. This album has eight and one song that is a 6-string -tuned, y´know, more standard D-sharp, so that's a difference. So, most of all songs are really low. There's, however, some really fast stuff on this album that's got the fast drums and the fast guitar and all that - fast vocals, too. And then there's... most of the songs have fast kick drums, symbol and fast kickin´. But the movement is really catchy , more singing -type of rhythms; sharp and heavy rhythms. Catchy and ... (!) - I really cannot find the right words. Well, there's a lot of guitar parts that are very orchestrated where the two guitars do totally different things. They are not following the same thing. One guitar is doing one rhythm and one is doing another rhythm and the whole song is basically like that. Besides just being one part where they do variations, there's variations going on all the time. And there's poly-rhythms like in "Ageless, Still I Am", the second song on the album, is actually track three, but it's the second song. That has two rhythms that are just doing totally different things. And even the first track has two different rhythms - doing just totally different things at the same time and together making a big, y´know, kind of sound. So, I think that's really cool. There's not as much of that on "Formulas...", but it certainly has that, too - there's parts, but now we got like... well, almost a whole song is like that. They are not doubling up the same thing. And the vocals are... they have got more diversity and are really catchy, but not commercial, tho.
If I managed to read between the lines, you're saying that you have concentrated
on creating a bit more "moody" stuff for "Gateways..." - at least more than
you had on "Formulas...", correct?!
Definitely! Lots of mood! There's incredibly moody stuff on this album. There's
also guitar-synthesizers stuff, but not a lot, however. On the next album probably
even more. I didn't wanna like over-load and totally come into something strange
- to where there's too different. But there are some moments where there's a
guitar lead and there's a synthesizer which is a guitar, but with synthesizer's
sound and they blend together really nice and very atmospheric and moody. And
then there's also some solos where I do/ I did on "Formulas..." where I used
weird sounds like a fan that blows air. And this fan will be in between the
microphone and a cabinet and it will make a certain kind of a quivering sound
to a guitar. And you can really hear that really, really good on this album.
There are a couple of parts like like that. I think this album has got a lot
of mood, a lot of feeling and it's just flying. And some of it has some
of the feeling kind of PINK FLOYD and THE GATHERING, but maybe little faster.
"Gateways..." has been produced by Jim Morris...
Yea... Jim Morris and the band.
Is there any particular reason there why you ended up choosing him to produce
"Gateways..." ?
We just wanted to do something different and I really like kind of stuff he
has done with some other bands before. And just wanted me to do and try out
something different. So, this album definitely has a different sound. "Formulas..."
is underground, has very underground sound which was on purpose. I wanted it
to be totally brutal and sick - Death Metal and Black Metal kind of at the same
time. And just really underground -sounding record. This album, "Gateways...",
is a little bit more of... (?), I don't know the right word, but it's NOT commercial
at all! It's NOT mainstream either!! But it IS catchy and I think more
people might like it. People that might not like really fast stuff, but like
heavy stuff. Like stuff that's more clear; I think they will totally like
this album. But still, MORBID ANGEL is still VERY SICK! The guitar parts are
very evil and dark and all that. Crawling, creepy...
Do you think Jim Morris is the best guy around to produce a band like MORBID
ANGEL?
HMMM... (!), I´m not sure. I really cannot say that. It was the 1st time we
worked with him, y´know, so it's way too early to say...
Still, do you think he had all the understanding what kind of a sound you
were after for?
Yea..., he did. I think he did really good job and I believe there are guys
who'd like to be more open for certain kind of things as far as production is
concerned. I really cannot say that I think, y´know, any particular person is
the best from now on because that's little too rigid. And I don't like to be
so rigid. So, you'll never know I may meet someone totally different guy next
time that does rage out, too. It's kinda hard to compare any of the records
and say what's better or worse because I think they are all good for certain
things. Y´know, for me "Altars of Madness" is more "noisy", uprising - sounding
record. But it has a vibe. It has feeling to it. And it´s really good at that
department. Also, the time when it came out, was very, I guess new - different
for the other stuff in -89. And then "Blessed Are the Sick" didn´t sound anything
like "Altars...". It had a whole different sound, more cleaner sound and some
slower stuff, whatever! The vocals sounded different, too.
But when it came out, do you think it scared a lot of people due to its
very different sound compared to "Altars..."?
When it first came out - yeah, it did, but later people started really dig it.
And there´s also, y´know, different types of fans. We have some fans that think
"Altars..." is our best record. And some fans that think "Domination" is our
best record. And those are totally different sounding records. But it´s all
MORBID ANGEL, so as long as they like something we are doing, then it´s all
good, y´know. That´s cool...
How have you shared a song writing process for "Gateways.."? Did you Trey
write most of it as you did for "Formulas..."?
Yeah, like on "Formulas...", I wrote pretty much all the music and lyrics by
myself. On this album ("Gateways..."), me and Steve co-wrote some songs.
Steve wrote one song entirely by himself, music and lyrics. I wrote a few songs
entirely by myself as far as music. I wrote lyrics for one song and Steve wrote
lyrics for all the other songs. Some of them, I worked to on them a little bit,
not as much with the words, but the phrasing. I really wanted this album to
be really catchy. To be really powerful... and brutal... and sick and all that
stuff, but still catchy. Being like sharply, memorable, y´know, sing-along almost,
but not wimpy or commercial. There´s some bands out there that are really
catchy and all of a sudden their sound is not as strong as it used to be. So
I think what we did, was able to find a nice place where it´s catchy and strong,
y´know what I mean - without loosing either one. This album has got both of
those elements, being catchy and sounding strong.
When you started the whole song writing process for "Gateways...", what
inspired you musically at that time? Or did you have any?
I have to say musically my main inspiration for this album is strange enough.
It´s PINK FLOYD and THE GATHERING.
What ´bout non-musical stuff then that has been a source of inspiration
for you during the time you were doing "Gateways..."?
Nature, the swamps where I live, Florida -wetlands. Just natural Florida -wetlands.
Not the beach, not the softwater - but the freshwater, the lakes, the woods,
the forests and the swamps like we were taking those pictures at for "Formulas...".
Stuff like that and also a big influence was videogames on the computer. I play
this game called "Quake III Arena" and it´s very popular game today. And
I have a group of players - like a team and we are called "The Sailor Scouts".
It´s kind of a team, it´s like a "Sailor Moon" which is a Japanese cartoon.
And if you know more about Japanese cartoons, they have a certain style. Like
with girls where they draw girls and where they do their thing, whatever! So,
that´s been a big influence. That type of stuff, my group - my gaming team "The
Sailor Scouts" and "Flamebat(!)" and watching it. A lot of stuff I´d watch just
to spectate, just watch the game, watch my player´s playing while I´d be playing
the guitar and watching the game. Some of the stuff came from that.
That´s a nice way to get some inspirations, I guess...?
Sure!!
When you were recording your new album, did you have to improvise some things
in the studio concerning the songs on it, equipments for the actual recording
situation and stuff like that?
I pretty much used the same guitar sound that I´ve always used. Just different
cabinet, speaker - like my speaker´s got kinda old, so I got some new speakers.
But still the same, mainly the same rig, equipments as any of the other albums.
Drums... we planned on using what we used which was gonna be all tricky drums
this time without acoustic drums. A little bit of an acoustic snare - we did
improvise on the actual snare drum and rented a new one that we used and liked
the best. When I do my guitar solos, I do them in my house as I have a little
studio there. And I improvise all my solos. Every solo that I played on
the album, I really wanted to capture the feeling without it being thought-out.
Almost closing the eyes and just playing and feeling the moment and record,
y´know what I mean? As opposed to planning, there wasn´t a lot of planning on
the solos.
When you´re practicing are you always taping all that what you´re playing?
Not always, but when I´m in my house, I try to write something - whatever! Sometimes
just to have a record and I´ll be just playing. And if sooner or later something
really cool comes out, I´ll rewind and figure out what it was and repeat it.
As for the title of your new album, "Gateways to Annihilation", do you mean
sort of an Armageddon, the ultimate, last war and destruction of mankind by
using such a title for the album - or does it mostly describe the content of
the album, the brutality of the songs and such things?
Yeah, it´s the brutality of the songs and the power. But it also has a lot of
to do with someone, having a realization that all the things he believed so
long to be true that he was so rigid and his beliefs. Someone coming to the
realization with all his beliefs where´s no more right than other people´s beliefs.
And a perfect example I´ve used so much as it´s such a great example to use
is Christianity. Because in the past and maybe even today, some Christians
have felt so strong that their view on life about right and wrong, was "W",
"W ONLY WAY", y´know what I mean?! And they couldn´t accept somebody believing
that the God of nature was a true God. And that they don´t need Jesus Christ
to reach the paradise. The Christians were just like: "How can you do it that
way? It´s only one way, it´s Jesus Christ and if you do any other way you´re
gonna go to Hell...!!" - no matter if you´re happy or in love or what. It´s
like those people coming to terms with the realization just realizing that:
"Hey(!), these pagans are... well, I´m no better than them. The Christians are
no better than the pagans". Love is love, peace is peace and good feelings are
just good feelings. It doesn´t matter if it happens thru Jesus Christ or it
happens thru the Goddess of nature, y´know what I mean? There´s no such thing
as false God and that way. Tarot -cards, fortune telling, whatever -magic, creative
visualization and things like that. It ain´t Devil´s work; It ain´t automatically
the Devil´s work. It could be the Devil´s work because it depends on what you´re
doing with it. When you´re doing it for good, good is good. There´s not... (!),
let´s say it´s not like ´Jesus Christ- good´ is better than some other kind
of good. Good is good. So it´s kind of like someone coming to terms with that
- realizing that: "Hey(!), I was a little stupid and judged these people wrong...".
And that´s stunning news! It´s someone finds that they were wrong in their beliefs.
And not that I´m saying that the Christians are wrong and believing in for themselves,
but when they look at other people and say: "Those people are heathens and naive".
And, y´know, the people that they are looking at are good people - loved, have
families and take care of things and all that. But the Christians are so close-minded
and say: "OH(!), they´re not believing in Jesus Christ, they´re evil!!". Y´know,
so it´s kind of that. That´s really where I was on about.
What are your own favorite songs out of this new album? What makes them
so special for you?
For me right now, I have to say my favorite song is track no. 3 which is the
2nd song on the album. It´s called "Ageless, Still I Am" and I like it
very much because the recording captured the feeling of the song so well and
it´s such a new kind of song. But that doesn't mean that I like it a whole lot
better than the other songs. I think all the songs are good. But there´s something
about this one particular song where it has the drums so grooving and so much
feeling and so cool. The guitars are so well being orchestrated with the vocals.
It´s just really cool! I love it!!
How many songs did you actually write for "Gateways..."?
Me personally...?!
No, altogether!
Oh(!), there´s 9 songs and then there´s one instrumental...
And you used them all for "Gateways...", right?!
Yez...
So, you have no leftovers, whatsover...?!
No...
Do you personally consider "Gateways..." as that very best album of MORBID
ANGEL´s whole existence in its own way?
I cannot say it´s the best, because I think all the records are really good
what they are for different reasons. I think this is the best record as far
as groove and that direction. This is the best MORBID ANGEL groove album. This
is the album that really shows people that MORBID ANGEL can groove like anybody.
And MORBID ANGEL aren´t limited just being one formula and just being Death
Metal as far as like other Death Metal bands where it´s one certain kind of
sound. That MORBID ANGEL can be really powerful and do other things and have
groove. And when I say ´groove´, I mean stuff that´s moving the body comes down
to it, y´know what I mean?! I think this album is the best in that direction...
The line-up which you had on "Gateways...", I was wondering whether you
considered it as the best recording line-up you´ve had so far? Obviously you
guys come along very well together when you´re on the road as well as outside
of the road...?
Yeah, we come along great! But there was some great moments when Dave was in
the band in the beginning, too. I can´t be so rigid and as say something as
was so much better than something else. I really think all the stuff we have
done is really cool and had its special thing to it.
When you´re on the road, is it easy to stay focused all the time and be
aware of all those facts why you guys are actually doing this and showing your
faces in different countries? I mean, do you find all this touring a very pleasant
thing like it´s more of like a "holiday" for yourself than a damn serious job
that just has to be done - no matter whether you´d like it or not?
Well, I have to say when I´m on tour and am on the road for a long time like
two months without going home - without having a break, like having a day off
is not break for me. I have to go home. And I´d like to go home and re-charge
my batteries. I get burnt-out if it gets repetitious and it´s not just the band
has anything life to me. When I´m into something, I do one thing a long time
in a row, it gets just boring. It gets repetitious and I don´t like any things
repetitious like that. I like things that change up. But I love touring. It´s
just when I do it for a long period of time and no break going home and to be
something totally different and be away from it, it gets a little repetitious.
And when I do like for example Brazilian interviews it´s like, y´know, so many
of them go great, but then as I go on, maybe 5th or 6th or 7th one in one day,
it starts to become less passionate and more technical. And it´s not what I
wanted to be like that - it just happens. I think it´s my personality.
What about playing in big festivals like Wacken, for example?
I think it´s really great. I think for this particular one, I´d rather have
played a couple of clubs as a warm-up to this. Like, play here today, but yesterday
and day before - whatever!. We would have played at a couple of clubs for warm-ups
because we haven´t played a concert for over a year. So this is our first concert
like in a year. So, it´s really kind of tough. You can practice all you want,
but playing in the front of people is different. There´s something different
about being on stage than practicing. When we practice, we are ready to play
the show. But it wasn´t like as being warmed-up and already playing shows to
lead up to them. Festivals are a big thing, y´know?! The sound is different,
there´s no proper soundcheck - y´know, it´s rough, it´s kind of tough. And I´d
really like to do a couple of warm-up shows. I think tonight´s concert would
have been even better. I felt like it was really good; people enjoyed it and
I had fun. So, it was cool.
Before you enter on a stage how you guys prepare yourselves either mentally
or physically for a live situation beforehand? Do you have any, well, let´s
say "rituals" you go thru together at a backstage before you conquer the stage?
Yeah - as for myself, I have to clear my mind from all the thoughts, not thinking
about anything. That´s really the way I performed on this album, too -
clearing my mind from all the thoughts. When I did my guitar solos for this
album, I wasn´t thinking about anything. I was just playing, trying to play
with intuition, feeling. So, I´ll try to find that state. And, y´know,
when there´s always people around talking and all this chattering and stuff
like that, my mind is like kind of in that, too. So, I´ll try to leave that
place and go somewhere that´s just still. Stillness and find that and
get to that point and then come from that place when I play...
What ´bout the other guys, then? Do they have usually anything going on
before the actual gig?
I think that they pretty much do the same thing, but their own way. And then
there´s stretching. Stretching is important. Stretching, y´know, your hands,
legs, neck - whatever!, so you're not tense.
Dan Seagrave did the artwork for this new album and as we all remember you
also used him for your legendary "Altars of Madness" album. What made you choose
his artwork for "Gateways...", too? As far as his artworks are concerned, he´s
an excellent artist and many bands used his works for their album covers in
the 90´s, but I was wondering whether there´s still something even more attractive
and special in this guy´s works that made you choose him and his artwork again...
?
Well, we liked what he did for "Altars of Madness". I really didn´t have any
premeditation about having him do this album´s cover. It just so happened that
our management was asking around as there wasn´t anything happened yet at that
time. They were looking and what he sent, we really liked. So, that we decided
to go with them.
What matters to you mostly when you´re composing a new MORBID ANGEL song?
In other words, what elements your song should contain in order that you could
say THIS IS a REAL MORBID ANGEL song if anything else?
It´s all about feeling. It´s all about the feeling. That´s all music is. It
doesn´t matter about anything else. It doesn´t matter if it´s really technical
or it´s simple. That´s not how I judge it; I judge it by the feeling. What it´s
feel like when I play it and how this one part feels going into the other part,
y´know?! Changes, rhythm changes and arrangements... It´s really all about the
feeling and I don´t care if it´s a lot of notes or one note. It doesn´t matter
if it´s tuned-down or a standard tune or fast or slow. It´s not based on that
at all; It´s all based on that what it feels like. If it´s feel good, you´ll
try to get moved by it. That´s why I really love THE GATHERING. Because I really
get moved by their music. And I think that´s what music is supposed to do. There´s
a movement, y´know, we all have our different interpretations and opinions about
what is moving and how we wanna be moving. I might not be moved by one band
that other people are. And that doesn´t mean that anybody´s right or wrong.
I just mean people are coming from different places. They have different
life experiences. Y´know, I really believe a lot what we like is determined
by our experiences of life and the things that we have liked in the past. And,
y´know, our path, our path in the life. Things we have done in the past like
- in the other words, you might hear a certain thing and it makes you remember
something in the past. Or, you´ve experienced something today and you´ve something
in the past that gives it support, the meaning. And then another person might
not have that, so they listen to something and maybe they don´t get that out
at all, y´know what I mean?! So, experiences - past experiences, what you have
in your subconscious, really determines your beliefs and things like that.
And then of course there´s the case of just naturally liking something more
than something else. Where it´s like, HA! Someone liking Coca Cola and then
someone else thinking Coca Cola tastes terrible and they are like: "I like 7
UP..." or something else, right?! Whatever all he/she has over here...
Can´t really look at that and say: "Well, that´s because you did this when you
were a little kid...". This is like someone today, trying Coke for the very
first time and decide whether they like this better than something else. Now
of course if you were a little kid, you might have have said something like:
"Oh yea..., I was trying Coke and I´ve been drinking it for twenty years...
Oh WOW! I drink Coke and I love it...!!". Y´know, maybe that´s because
it makes you remember when you were a little kid and you drank Coke and had
some fun and, y´know, whatever really! You started to have associations to it.
There´s that. But there´s also just as a natural thing where just somehow it
just moves you a certain way and you just like it, y´know what I mean?! And
there´s really nothing in the past that´s coming up. It´s just today, it´s just
a natural like or dislike. I don´t know how to explain that. It just that people
are different because people have... (?), well, different colour of hairs; people
have different colour of eyes, y´know, people have different sizes of bodys...
People are born in different times of the year. And people have different kind
of voices and, y´know, whatever! So, why is that? It´s just the way it is. It
just happens that way. It´s controversity, it´s life, y´know. Some people just
naturally like something more than something else. Who knows why - it just is
that way.
It goes without saying that MORBID ANGEL is truly one of the most carrying
and dominating bands in the Death Metal genre; you´ve been a major influence
for many young, up´n´coming bands for over ten years really. How exactly
do you feel personally for being in the very frontline of the Death Metal genre
nowadays? Do you ever feel any flattered for being in that position where you
are these days?
I feel quite happy that have felt an impact for our music. That´s the opposite
like making music and no one cares and goes like: "Who´s that?!". So, it´s like
having people picked up on identify with an enjoy. I think it´s great. I really
enjoy it. Yea... And if people wanna sound something like us, then I look
at that as a compliment. Because, y´know, I´m influenced by things myself. Like
I´m influenced by PINK FLOYD and THE GATHERING, any VAN HALEN, BLACK SABBATH
and all different stuff. I´m influenced by all that. So, it´s kind of like,
y´know, other people being influenced by what we do as me being influenced by
these other bands.
Bands like NILE, KRISIUN, REBAELLIUN, HATE ETERNAL and some other new Death
Metal are pretty much following paths MORBID ANGEL has once created, churning
out as brutal and violent shit as possible - and proving that today´s Death
Metal is doing extremely well. What do you think of the future of Death Metal
and what´s your personal opinion about the bands I just mentioned earlier here?
I think they are all doing great job. I think they have all been able to take
whatever! -influences into their sound regarding our band and do something their
own with it - to still be themselves, y´know what I mean?! Like myself, I was
influenced by Eddie Van Halen, but I don´t think that I play like him. I don´t
play his notes. I kind of maybe have a feeling something like him, but I don´t
copy him. I´m not copying or ripping him off and whatever like that! There
still are, however, some bands that sound just like another band and I don´t
think that´s so ´hot´ or ´exciting´. So, when you come influenced by something
and not copy it - but building from it - building your own thing from this influence,
this passion or this movement or something, I think that´s great. I think that´s
the way things should be ´coz I think everybody is influenced by something.
Do you consider yourself as a perfectionist as far as everything involved
with MORBID ANGEL is concerned?
I can´t say I do things perfect ´coz I don´t. I make mistakes and I fall short
sometimes or whatever. But I want things to be perfect; I really do. And
it´s hard. It makes everything really tough because there´s some people that
can like make things, y´know, pretty good and then they can say, y´know: "It´s
fine, I´m not going to worry about it. I still let it go. I´ll go and
drink some beers and I´ll get to it next time...".
As for myself, it´s like I would want to be great, y´know, I´m just going to work on it. Y´know, there´s a lot of passion there, there´s a lot like pain that goes with it. Because this pain - and in the idea accepting something that I don´t think is quite as good as it should be... this pain. So, it pushes and pressures to keep going with it. And there´s also sadness that goes with it, too. But, yeah, I´m a perfectionist. I tend to over-analyze things. I can´t say it´s the best or easiest way to live or the happiest way to live ´coz there´s a lot of pain in it. But it´s the way I am. I only know that I can change...
So, are you saying that you´re kind of your own worst enemy when trying
to work for MORBID ANGEL...?!
Yeah, I am... I really am. And I can´t say it´s the best way to live,
but I think people like Mozart was the same way. He was driven to do things.
It´s like when you like that, you get disappointed a lot. And you get bored
a lot, too. It´s just so hard to be pleased sometimes, so it takes a lot
more than that. But, y´know, it´ll take all the energy to produce something
that might be a product of all this energy and that´s the thing to be like maybe
really great because of all this effort. But man, there´s a lot of sacrifices
that go with it.
Back in -91/-92 "Abominations of Desolation", your unreleased first album,
was released by a Japanese SATANIC RECORDS for the very first time as a vinyl.
Was it released by some of your permission or was it entirely a rip-off thing?
That was completely a rip-off thing. EARACHE did release it officially
in -91. So, the one from Japan was a rip-off, yez...
What do you think all these other MORBID ANGEL bootlegs that are floating
to the metal markets all the time?
I think it´s criminal...
So, you think some people are just trying to make some easy money by releasing
them... ?
Yes, I think so. It´s just stealing...
But still, I think there´s the other side to that, too. As you may
know, many so-called hardcore fans think it´s still cool to buy and have these
bootlegs...
Yeah, I understand that - there´s a good thing to it, but it´s still stealing,
criminal. I just can´t see beyond that. I work really very hard
for this band and when I´m thinking someone is making money on me and putting
out stuff that maybe I wouldn´t wanna put out because I maybe didn´t think it
was the best concert or something - someone had recorded and selling it - and
I might not wanted it to be so because I think that the other concert was better
or something. I just don´t think it´s right...
Also, modern technology has given its helping hand for a new kind of stealing;
there´s now the Internet thing, too...
Yeah, it is because it kind of steals from the artist. So, it´s bad enough
when some bands get completely ripped off by their management or their record
label. I don´t feel that we´ll do, but there´s always that in the music
business. So, to get ripped off also by bootleggers, it´s just a big rip
off! I´m not too excited about it.
Making your 1st ever demo or album is always a huge challenge for anyone.
Can you remember how you actually felt when you got "Thy Kingdom Come" demo
done back in -87? Did you have any clue at that time that demo could bring
Heavy Metal into more extreme level - and the Heavy Metal scene could never
be the same any longer from that day on?
Well, I have to be honest with you. I´ve always believed that this band
was gonna do something. And that´s just new believing that things were
special. Some people would say that´s arrogant or whatever, but myself, I just...
(?) - I had a lot of passion about it and a drive - and I was determined that
I was gonna come out and make some kind of an impact. And I really did.
I had no, like a plan that "Altars of Madness" would make quite an impact as
it did ´coz it did quite a lot of impact when it came out. There was a
lot of a great timing, it came out the right time. But also I always felt MORBID
ANGEL was going to cause an impact and it was going to be something special
because the kind of feeling we were getting across, the type of music.
I felt it was different at that time. I thought it was a different approach
and I thought myself I was very different individual than a lot of people because
of the way that I raised myself and the way I modeled myself and allowed to
be influenced by some things and shun other things. Y´know, I really was in
control of my upbringing - myself. I spent a lot of time with myself,
day-dreaming, etc. Other people spent time going to parties and drinking
beer - going to bars and lived like that, but I didn´t. I spent time playing
guitar and listening to music and day-dreaming about doing something special
with the music. And I loved music. And I think some bands are into music
more because they want to be cool. They don´t really have the connection
to music, the way like I do or some other people do. I think there´s something
about really feeling music on a really deep level - and then people who just
kind of think "it´s cool", y´know what I mean?! A little more shallow,
there are definitely people have bands that are very shallow. It´s no
mystery. The are the bands that find a trend and say: "We´re gonna be
a part of that trend and cash in on it...". Be cool and have girlfriends
and all that, whatever! I never cared about that. I wanted to do
something that was ´big´ and had energy; has a special energy and magic to this
to express. That was my approach, it was a little different...
But I don´t think I was the only one. I think people like Eddie Van Halen was the same type of person, too. When he came out, he wanted to take a guitar and throw it to people´s faces and say: "This is the new way of playing guitar, man! This is the way to play - this is new, y´know. This is exciting, check this shit out as bad ass, y´know?!". He was driven to do that. He was about to just trying fit in to the genre. He was gonna come out and be his genre, his own style. And other people, too, like Mozart, I think was the same way. People has told stuff about his music he did; tunes, notes - whatever like that are too different or too complex or something else. He just wanted to express this energy and it had to come out and it had to be a certain way. And no one was gonna buying. No one was going to convince him to change it. Me, I just feel that I have got a higher quality to answer than any individual on this planet, y´know what I mean?! A little higher purpose in what I do. I wanna make sure what I mean... I answered to a higher voice than an opinion of any human being on this planet. That´s what I mean. I don´t mean that I think that I´m a higher musician than anybody else - I don´t mean that. I just mean that when I decide what I´m gonna do, it´s not based on what any individual thinks. It´s what I think and what I feel. And if people don´t like it, I don´t care. I do share with them, but most of our fans would not want me to go ask them what the hell they want me to play. They want me to play what I feel and then give it to them - let them check it out! That´s how I am and will most definitely be in the future as well...
Thanx very much Trey for this great opportunity to have a talk with you.
It was a real pleasure to do it and like a dream-come-true for me to meet you
face-to-face and talk about things. Thank you very much again!!
Well, then I´m sharing a mutual feeling -thank you!!