Interview with Trey Azagthoth
Trey is a musician that I feel a large amount of respect for, because he
is an inspirational guitar player with incredible speed and creativity
in his writing and playing. However there is more than that behind this
supposed Satanist than just his musical abilities. He is one who takes
his life into his own hands and creates his own destiny, instead of
allowing that to be done by others. He knows what he wants and how he
feels, and what he believes. His intelligence and his will are just as
inspirational, and can quite certainly be learned from. This interview
is mostly a philosophical understanding of Trey's mind, the reasons
behind the music, and, whether you agree or disagree with what he says,
it's definitely something to think about. Music inspires thought, and
that's what this is all about.
Enslain – How is your new singer working out for you?
Trey – He's great! He's got more underground feel than the way David
was on the last record, and David was loosing the interest in death
metal, and what death metal is. That's why he left the band.
Enslain – What are your philosophical beliefs, more on a
Trey – They're based on the Cabala, to be simple, (Jewish mythicism),
our connection with the higher self, a different map or model of the
different levels that we exist on. I just believe in spirit. You know, I
believe in the soul being of the same likeness as the energy that makes
everything where it is, and that we're connected with it directly. It
can be looked at as an unseen talent for a lot of people that don't ever
access it, don't use it, you know, it just kind of is there, and it's
um, like a mystery to them. And then for me I like to study it, and
harness its power and actually use it, because it's the pure
potentiality from the un-manifest, the pure spirit before it has become
anything. It can become all things, it can make up anything, and it just
has no limit. It's like once you decide to go a certain direction,
you're limited, because you're going in this direction which means
you're not going in this other, and that's about the ways of action, but
at the beginning, to turn to the source of being able to do all things,
and all things are possible, and that's what I just call the spirit.
Just different labels. But that's what the whole thing's based on. It's
a balance of the ways of activeness, the ways of stillness; activeness
is like pursuing your goals and your desires to manifest your true will
into reality... Music is a form of expression and celebration of spirit.
Enslain – A lot of people would label the music as Satanism, how
does that make you fell?
Trey – I'm beyond all that, it doesn't matter to me, people can call it
whatever they want. I've actually gone beyond the titles now; titles
don't mean anything, just energy. Satanism is like... I could be
considered a Satanist, I guess, because "I am, I will, I create", that's
just talking about, I am the one responsible for my life, you know,
realizing that, that I will make my own decisions and choose my path,
and therefore create and shape my destiny. Myself.
Enslain – So what are your views on the afterlife?
Trey – It's just a continuum of energy. Beyond that, who knows? As
energy we cannot die, we just change. It's like a chemical change. What
makes up matter is energy and information. They're on a deep level on
Enslain – What else do you do in your spare time?
Trey – Play video games, ride my bike, hang out, do whatever. A lot of
meditation, a lot of things like that, just creating my own
environment... my environment is like my area, my world, my perception.
Setting up things in my physical environment to stimulate my higher
environment. You know, like the physical environment would be like the
kind of people you hang out with, what you do daily, and how much time
you spend on this and that and the other, and the way you look at
things, what you think about when you wake up in the morning, all those
different things, and then to me, it's all about achieving a peak state
of emotion, being happy, pretty much. When you feel happy and excited
about your life and about what you're doing, I think it brings the best
of the individual out, you know, being in that state. A lot of the stuff
I talk about is like basic psychology, as far as how you run your mind.
I believe that values and decisions, which decisions are based on
values, values is what makes us up, what we are. You want to change the
way you are, change your values. Change the way that you run your mind,
the way that you make decisions as to what to do, what to think about,
how to represent things to yourself, you know, that's change. That's to
me, it's the science and the metaphysical coming together, you know,
because a lot of people who are into psychology, they talk about these
different things, and these are the kind of things that go back and say
with religious beliefs in the past, you know it's a big connection with
the way it all works. Like belief, a belief is nothing more than a
feeling of certainty about something. A certainty. That's all it is, it
doesn't mean that it's a fact, because there's really no truths, there's
only perceptions of truth, until you go into like the courtroom or
something, you know, the judge and jury decides the truth. But beyond
that, there is no truth, there's only your perception of truth, what
works. So to me, gathering together a formula, a way of being, that's
useful, that promotes growth and true fulfillment, and fulfillment
should be measured by the individual. Usefulness should be measured by
the individual, because people are different, you know, we're not
clones. Some people have different preferences about things, what they
like to do, some people like things real fast, some people like it slow,
some people like this color, this music, this type of people. So the
thing is, is to identify what naturally, an individual wants, and for
that individual to assemble with that.
Enslain – How much do you practice guitar a day?
Trey – It depends, I usually just go through scales and stuff like
that. That's kind of like the mechanics of it. The most kind of practice
is achieving the frame of mind, the place to come from. Because when I
play, I like to go above the personality spheres, into like the soul
energy, and let that express through the playing as much as possible. So
usually I detach myself the physical as much as possible, and even
before we play, you know backstage, I may be real quiet and in my own
world, 'cause that's the way I play, that's the way I do it. When I'm at
home, I like to do a lot of reading and stuff, and interviews and
whatever, but when I'm going to play shows, I'm usually more locked in,
just creating my environment, the kind that's going to let the playing
come out the best, which is basically lessening all the distractions.
Enslain – What bands do you like?
Trey – Vader, Angel Corpse, some old Deicide, Diabolic, as far as like
death metal bands. Other than that, I listen to a lot of old school
stuff, and I like The Gathering, I think The Gathering is really killer,
"Nighttime Birds" is a really great album, and I like Dead Can Dance and
I like Jap-animation music, and whatever.
Enslain – Do you ever go to other bands' concerts?
Trey – I don't go out. I'm just not really a social type of person, I'm
more like a kind of guy that would just live out on a big plot of land
with a house and just be kind of detached because I never fit in to
groups, other than the outcasts, the freaks, and I never had that much
to say that would harmonize. My interests are different. I'm more
internal, not external. Not that I don't like people, I have nothing
against people, I just don't fit in, so I don't hang out. I don't go to
gatherings, I don't go to parties, I don't do things like that. When I
play concerts, I really don't want to go talk to all the fans before the
show, but after the show, I definitely want to see what kind of energy
was exchanged. To me the concert is like a ceremony, it is something
that exchanges energy from the band to the fans, back and forth, it's
like a continuum. But other than that, I don't go out to see concerts;
I'm just not a social type of person.
Enslain – What bands were you influenced by, as far as what you
put in to Morbid Angel?
Trey – My influences were like Van Halen, Hendrix, and Judas Priest,
and Black Sabbath, and things like that. Just psychedelic playing,
visionary playing. I listened to this stuff when I was younger, and I
assimilated a feeling out of it, the kind of stuff that I liked out of
the guitar playing. Then when I play now, or when I write, I guess it
reminds me of my reference point, of where I come by. I like solos to be
dynamic, you know what I mean, I didn't take any theory, I don't know
much about music technically, I just play what feels right and what
seems engulfing. Plus I tap into the spirit, so the spirit plays, you
know what I mean, it's not just me playing, because I think when I play
by myself, without any inspiration, my playing is very dull, and
whatever. I'm more of an inspirational player.
-- Lady Enslain